tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689207772212545469.post7414472846293799418..comments2023-11-21T08:31:03.309-06:00Comments on Nordic Commentary Project: Girls Can't Ski FarColin Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06289923497258059725noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689207772212545469.post-81808657681475525122010-02-28T15:18:07.126-06:002010-02-28T15:18:07.126-06:00Umm, as a female middle distance athlete in multip...Umm, as a female middle distance athlete in multiple sports I can tell you that there is no physiologic reason for women to race shorter distances (it would only be a valid argument if women were racing men). I have competitively rowed (2 k sprint, 5 k head race)and swam (500, 1000 yd and mile). We race same distance as the men, yes it takes different times- so what? Unless the worry is time Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17437343875632526977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689207772212545469.post-8345162048191057032010-01-09T09:07:48.584-06:002010-01-09T09:07:48.584-06:00Vegard Ulvang's got my back!Vegard Ulvang's got my back!Colin Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06289923497258059725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689207772212545469.post-55185864345513953302010-01-09T06:07:53.386-06:002010-01-09T06:07:53.386-06:00Google's translation of that article that Anon...Google's translation of that article that Anonymous mentions:<br /><br />"During Wednesday's Tour de Ski was the boys 35 km, while the girls had to settle for 16 km. Then said the leader in cross-country committee in Skiforbundet, Hermod Bjørkestøl, to Adresseavisen that this was something that "hanging back" from Gamel days.<br /><br />Now, Vegard Ulvang in FIS give girls Christopher Tassavahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04547273541099162779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689207772212545469.post-82786290635707980792010-01-08T21:23:27.584-06:002010-01-08T21:23:27.584-06:00http://www.langrenn.com/ulvang-vil-utfordre-jenten...http://www.langrenn.com/ulvang-vil-utfordre-jentene.4670670-1743.html<br /><br />Ulvang says he is considering extending the length of the womens races. <br /><br />I agree with Colin with the exception of the 50k in Trondheim last year mass starts for men are extremely boring. <br />And that was a very hard course with a long loop. Something that is not common in the world cup. <br /><br />And Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689207772212545469.post-57083956667016507242010-01-07T16:37:09.970-06:002010-01-07T16:37:09.970-06:00sure, you may not think the mass start races are n...sure, you may not think the mass start races are not exciting. I think individual start races can be pretty exciting myself. The fact remains, FIS is trying to create excitement for TV and therefore revenue with the formats. Women racing alone 5 mins apart from eachother over 50km is not exciting because the field has spread out so much is not exciting and would be a TV bomb. It is a big reason Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689207772212545469.post-63349981616242793712010-01-07T10:43:21.143-06:002010-01-07T10:43:21.143-06:00TV ratings are interesting.
It seems to me that t...TV ratings are interesting.<br /><br />It seems to me that the added length of the men's race just means more time for everyone to stand around and draft each other. Currently, I watch because I think "maybe this is the time someone tries attacking early," but if this racing style continues for five more years I will definitely become a "watch the last 15 minutes" kind ofColin Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06289923497258059725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689207772212545469.post-3220072429803984912010-01-07T10:31:56.435-06:002010-01-07T10:31:56.435-06:00hey I am not saying that women cannot ski as far a...hey I am not saying that women cannot ski as far as the men, only that the TV ratings (something that is not relevant in loppets) would be very poor due to the lack of depth in the field. TV ratings are the deciding factor when it comes to World Cup Racing format. For those of you who do not think TV ratings matter, just look at the changes in formats in the last 10 years. Sprinting, mass starts,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689207772212545469.post-60484916782808369682010-01-06T14:01:53.687-06:002010-01-06T14:01:53.687-06:00http://www.langrenn.com/gamle-holdninger-gjoer-at-...http://www.langrenn.com/gamle-holdninger-gjoer-at-jentene-gaar-kortere.4669769-1743.html<br /><br />Norwegian team doctor says there is no reason why the ladys can`t go the same distance as men. <br />It`S only done out of old habit <br /><br />Personally i think womens races shud be longer so they take approximately the same amount of time as mens race`s and not be the exact same distance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689207772212545469.post-51305645549398868062010-01-06T13:46:55.980-06:002010-01-06T13:46:55.980-06:00I'm always amazed at hjow much of an old boy&#...I'm always amazed at hjow much of an old boy's club XCskiing remains even today. As a woman racer,I'm appaled at today's women's race profile. The worst thing is that it takes away from strong skiers (think Steira) who probably would have stood a much better chance with a real XC race course. And thus takes away from the appeal of the women's event.<br />Even if there are Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06703355578893779378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689207772212545469.post-25430598609550402462010-01-06T13:03:34.459-06:002010-01-06T13:03:34.459-06:00just look at the overall standings. The top 30 men...just look at the overall standings. The top 30 men are 1min apart, the top 30 women are 5 mins apart. If there was distance or time parity that would be 7-8min. Not very exciting. When the womens field becomes better overall I think you might be able to make this argument. until then I think the distances need to stay shorter so that some semblance of excitement exists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689207772212545469.post-76778617320915110242010-01-06T12:11:56.570-06:002010-01-06T12:11:56.570-06:00Are you saying that running 26.2 miles in 2h30m is...Are you saying that running 26.2 miles in 2h30m is more of an effort than running 26.2 in 2h10m?Kuanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10156794256290611898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689207772212545469.post-86877453499707911892010-01-06T11:07:30.250-06:002010-01-06T11:07:30.250-06:00Like it or not there are physiological differences...Like it or not there are physiological differences between men and women, hormonal, muscle mass etc. that suggest some differences MAY be warranted re equalizing the effort.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689207772212545469.post-21823945773478273862010-01-06T09:03:12.933-06:002010-01-06T09:03:12.933-06:00The womens race profile is ridiculous.
And as a pe...The womens race profile is ridiculous.<br />And as a person who enjoys raceing and not crashes it seems i migth not wanna see this race. <br /><br />I tend to agree with you that men and women shud race distances that are more similar. But maybe not equal distance but as you say equal times. <br /><br />I also think that sprints shud be shorter not longer shorten the mens sprint not increase the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com